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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:10 am 
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You might have all your ducks lined up, but you're not going to be able to sign Allan until Mangum is official. And he could still throw a monkey wrench in the works.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:20 pm 
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Again, with Magnum at 50k, the most you can offer Allan without getting into losing picks/slots for next year is: $2,493,830

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:48 pm 
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So 2.4 is the magic number. Or around $2m for Barco.

Tough signings...

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:20 am 
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So 2.4 is the magic number. Or around $2m for Barco.

Tough signings...


I would have to guess one of them takes the money. They're one pitch away from having to settle for $10K five years from now.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:40 am 
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Wolf signed 2 weeks before the GCL opened, and if he's going to pitch over 10 innings it'll be a miracle. There was no urgency to sign him, and there was no reason to pay him so generously unless you knew to the penny exactly how much you needed to sign Allan and knew this wouldn't impact it.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:20 am 
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Is it possible .. you are giving the Mets too much credit?

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:28 am 
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Is it possible .. you are giving the Mets too much credit?

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The only scenarios I see are mine or the possibility that the the number Allan is asking for after the draft is different from the one he floated before the draft.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
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If the consolation prize is Barco, it is still pretty solid.

If Allen signs, it was a fantastic draft at the top.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
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Padres just gave the 84th pick $3M, which probably won't help......


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
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Padres just gave the 84th pick $3M, which probably won't help......


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Can't even justify it with his ranking. Hope Mets have something in place with Allan...
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MLBTR: The Padres have signed third-round pick Hudson Head, the 84th selection in this year’s draft, to a $3MM bonus, Jim Callis of MLB.com reports. That’s a colossal payday relative to Head’s slot, which came with a value of $721,900, and represents a record bonus for a third-rounder.

Head’s a high school outfielder from Texas who fell short of where the Padres picked him, according to prominent draft pundits. FanGraphs (No. 90), MLB.com (No. 122) and Baseball America (No. 128) all placed the ex-Oklahoma commit below 85th. But Head, 18, has an “advanced feel for hitting” and “could wind up with solid or better tools across the board,” Callis and Jonathan Mayo write.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
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So, does Tommy Tanous now say they had Allan and Wolf tied for best prep arm? Or let the substantially different check size speak for itself?


This didn't age nearly as well as either of us thought it was going to, did it?


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 NYM Draft: Round 3, Pick 89: RHP Matthew Allan
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Per Kiley McDaniel

Latest rumors were Allan will sign for $2.5M.

If you assume Mangum gets $40K and add together:

- 3rd round slot ($667,900)
- Overage ($411,230)
- Savings thus far ($967,800)
- Projected Mangum savings ($447,900)

...it adds up to $2.503 million

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